Gullivers Travels/March of the Wooden Soldiers

Purple Monster (4/12/03 11:50 am)

I could never forget a Thanksgiving growing up in NY without these two favorites playing on Channel 11 in the 60s. It gave the kids something extra to look forward to on the holiday while staying out of the adults hair. I just bought both of these classics on DVD to be enjoyed by my own kids and sure enough they're a big hit! I don't mean to advertise, but I found the $5.99 price with free shipping almost unbelievable at deepdiscountdvd.com . I also have to add that the COLORIZED copy I got of MOTWS aka "Babes in Toyland" is most welcome in my home. Black and white purists only neeed to ask kids watching this classic, "WOULD YOU RATHER SEE THIS IN BLACK AND WHITE?"

DrTobor1 (4/13/03 5:21 pm)

I bought the colorized version of MOTWS on VHS some years ago, and I fully agree I'd rather have it in color than B&W. I still enjoy playing this one every year, at least twice a year. Where did you buy the DVD version of it PM? I'd like to get that myself.

Purple Monster (4/13/03 6:57 pm)

Doctor I got it online from Deepdiscountdvd.com for 6 dollars with free shipping. It took a week to get to my home and my kids were elated. Like my Gulliver's Travels, it's from Goodtimes Video and I must say I find these 2 DVD products very satisfactory. In the past I always found Goodtimes VHS offerings to be hit or miss with quality.

DrTobor1 (4/14/03 6:37 am)

Yes, my VHS edition was from Goodtimes as well. I wasn't aware they had transferred it to DVD. I'm heading on over to DeepDiscount DVD right now to get that gem. And, as mentioned, you can say what you will about colorization, and use all the arguments you wish for "altering the original artist's concept", but this is one that should have been filmed in color from in the first place. I can't imagine watching it now in B&W. Thanks for the info PM.

diduseeimfly (4/14/03 9:24 am)

I saw the colorized version of MOTWS on teevee several years ago and was surprised at how good it was. It was a real treat to see this fantasy story in color.
King Kong (1933). I must have seen this movie in black and white a hundred times thinking I knew every detail by heart. I was shocked when I saw the colorized version of this film. For the first time, I noticed little details in the film more clearly that I barely noticed, if at all, in it's original black and white version.
Bottom line is that colorization of a black and white film ain't necessarily bad.

DrTobor1 (4/15/03 5:38 am)

Well, I ordered the DVD of MOTWS from Deep Discount DVD and the cost was only $6.00 with FREE shipping. Coming from Goodtimes, it's got to be the same print they used for the VHS Platinum series release. I love it. Now, if only I can locate WAY OUT WEST WITH L&H colorized, I'll die a happy man (almost; still a couple of serials I'd love to see released, UNCUT). WAY OUT WEST with L&H is also one of their most hilarious releases, and it also was colorized. I have the VHS version of it colorized, but the DVD release is nowhere to be seen; so I guess I'll have to wait.
Speaking of colorization, did any of your guys see the 2 Republic serials that were colorized a few years ago? The Republic studios (before they were shut) cut up ZOMBIES OF THE STRATOSPHERE and THE CRIMSON GHOST for nationwide TV syndication in color. They only colorized the cut up portions. Both serials were shown in 2 hour time slots in one evening. I did buy the commercial version VHS of ZOMBIES OF THE STRATOSPHERE, but only have a taped off the air version of the CRIMSON GHOST. I objected mightily to the way they butchered these serials, but I have to honestly say that whoever did the colorization, really knew what they were doing. Both serials were magnificent in color. Plans were to colorize and telecast more of them if these 2 serials had "caught on". But unfortunately, they didn't catch on with today's generation. The chapter endings were kept intact, and a very brief recap was done after the commercial breaks; all opening credits, except for chapter 1, were cutout (the cast lists and credits; the title remained in place). The cutting job I didn't like, but I'm sure happy I have both of these gems in color, regardless of the cutting.

diduseeimfly (4/15/03 8:43 am)

I have the colorized version of "The Crimson Ghost" that was put out by Republic. I didn't care for the way the serial was edited either. But like you, I was very impressed with the colorization of it.
The only other shortened serial I have seen is "Hi Yo Silver." All I have to say about it is that the dialogue isn't in Spanish subtitles nor spoken in French (Those Damn Frenchies. They still haven't a clue). And, that it does contain the final chapter where The Lone Ranger reveals his identity.

Tony Bolton (4/15/03 10:52 am)

The Shirley Temple collection was colorized and sold in large numbers. Too bad Fox which did a great job of marketing them dropped the ball on colorizing them because they did a poor job. Universal colorized a couple of Paramont's Temple movies and did a good job to try to cash in on Fox's success.
The Our Gang series would sell quite well me thinks if colorized. Some are not PC but most would be quite fine for young kids.
Older films can sell if cleaned up and marketed correctly. Columbia threw Batman and Robin, Shadow and Blackhawk on the market with no advertising and they bombed in sales. With some judicious marketing and colorization perhaps they would have sold especially Batman and Robin.

DrTobor1 (4/17/03 9:21 am)

Tony, I agree with you on both counts regarding the Shirley Temple classics. Some of those features colorization wasn't that good, while a couple did stand out. As for the Columbia serials, yes, they should have done some pre-release advertising, and given the chance for people who don't use computers to know those serials were about to be released. And colorization indeed might have helped out a bit, especially with the Columbia titles.

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